おかげで [おかげで] (okagede)
Meaning: thanks to
Example: It's thanks to you that I received the promotion.
JLPT Level: 2
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|Amatuka||See also 'okagesamade'|| |
|Miki||hither and thither あちらこちらに|
|bamboo4||The second example is to show that this expression can be used in a reverse situation.|| |
|PaulO||Hang on bamboo4,|
In all of the textbooks I've read, お陰で can only be used to indicate a positive outcome in JLPT2. It may be used in other contexts (maybe to express irony in colloquial Japanese) but for JLPT2, I don't think your example is valid.
I think you mean 〜のせいで.
|bamboo4||On the contrary, お陰で can be used in a negative sense in many situations, e.g., お前さんのお陰で大変な損をしたよ.|
I don't personally care a hoot about JLPT or whatever - when you have to learn, you have to learn.
|tanuki86||PaulO is correct. おかげで is used in positive connotations, such as "thanks to...".|
While せいで is used in negative connotations, usually to express blame, such as "because of...".
And I agree that these examples should be groomed according to grammar level. However, exceptions can be noted if the context/situation is properly explained.
|laki-laura||普通はよい結果になる場合に使うが、皮肉な表現として、悪い結果になる場合にも使うことがある。 This is written in my JLPT2 book, so bamboo4 is right.|
|tigert||I have heard it used in negative situations as well, although this site is for JLPT preperation. the ultimate goal should be to learn Japanese. |
Classroom Japanese is far from the real thing. keep that in mind while you study and you might improve faster than you had expected.
|tenkamuteki82||Did anyone notice the examples use 2 different kanji? Which one is the right one? 陰 or 蔭 ?|| |
|DrJones||陰 is in the 常用 kanji list, while the other is not. It looks like an old form that some people still use.|| |
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