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<< tatokoro | tatotan >>

た形ところで ([たところで] )(tatokorode)
    Meaning: even if you do... it will not result to.. 〜してもよい結果にはならない; 期待できない
    Example: Nothing will change even if I asked advice from my friend.
    JLPT Level: 2
    Category: grammar
    Author: 赤毛

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ex #5505   友人に相談したところで、同じだろう 
Nothing will change even if I asked advice from my friend.  
ex #5507   喧嘩したところでどうにもならないだろ。 
Fighting won't do any good. ( Even if you fight...)  
ex #5508   癌(がん)が肺まで広がっている。手術したところで、助からない。 
The cancer has spread to the lungs. Even if we operate now, there is no hope.  
ex #5740   タクシーで行ったところで、もう間に合わない. 
Even if I take a taxi, I won't make it.  
ex #5746   君がいくら話をしたところで私を納得させることはできないよ。 
You can talk until you're blue in the face, but you'll never convince me.  
ex #6958   いくら話し合ったところで、この問題を解決することはできません。 
Despite having discussed it many times, I cannot solve this problem.  
ex #6959   もともと勉強する気がないのなら、大学を受けてみたところで何の意味があるのか。 
If by nature you don't have interest in studying, even if you intended to take the university entry exam, does it make sense?  
ex #6960   どんなに一生懸命働いたところで、生活は楽にならないだろうと思う。 
Even if I worked with utmost effort, I think that the daily existence wouldn't become easier.  

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blabby#5505 has redundant kana?

I have heard this grammar used a lot right at the point where the speaker gives up in a hopeless situation. Simlar to saying "Even if ... it's too late."

The sentence usually ends in 〜ない or words such as 無理だ or 無駄だ。
eastmaelupdated. tnx. :) 
bamboo4ところで also means "by the way" which you use in trying to change the subject. ところで、あの件はどうなったの? 
PaulThe 'た' can be from any past tense verb so it could equally be だ from 読んだ and such. 
yookosoWhat's the difference between this grammar and ~ても (~te mo)? 
TnTThis is listed as JLPT L2. However, it wasn't included in my L2 test book. I first saw it in my N1 grammar book.  

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