Comments:
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| dc | there are lots of different bakari~~s! bakari bakari! | |
| Amatuka | I think the と quotation in the second example /may/ have an implied 言わない after it. | |
| dc | "Seems to be used in casual/slang speech with negative verb stem + ん so as to mean "as if to " without actually doing so." | |
| Amatuka | Appeared in 2000 JLPT level 1 | |
| Amatuka | Meaning changed back. Seems that I was right in the first place. | |
| Miki | hmm I don't see the difference this and another ばかりに。The same nuance when you add (言わん).
絶好の機会と(言わん)ばかりに、飛びついた。 | |
| Amatuka | Maybe we need more examples for the other bakarini but it seems to have a qualitative (type) difference to me. | |
| Amatuka | Could just be down to lack of familiarity with forms like 言わん though... | |
| Snake | is 言わん just short for iwanai? like
'iwanai bakari ni -> just about not saying (but its almost as if it was said)
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| bamboo4 | You would say 言わなかったばかりに and 言わんばかりに, but not 言わないばかりに.
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| DealPete | 言わん can be short for 言わない, but in this case, 言わん = 言わむ is an old fashioned subjunctive, equivalent to 言おう.
I was highly confused at first until I discovered that the final "ん" can signal two different inflectional forms | |
| blabby | Maybe this should be listed as "と(言わん)ばかりに". I've seen lots of examples such as
うちの犬は「散歩に行こうよ」とばかりに僕の顔を見て吠えた。
My dog looked at me and barked as if to say "let's go for a walk!" | |
| Bakurosareta | In Californish it would be "was like" | |
| tigert | I think it would be helpful if the Authors of grammar posts made sure to include a grammar note. examples are helpful, but good solid grammatical information makes it easier to memorize and utilize in real life situations. | |
| LR | tigert! This is the internet... we're not authors... we're just like you. If you want a perfect explanation buy a text book... then come back and explain it to the rest of us mere mortals. | |
| LR | Hi... so this post is all kinda messed up. Kanzen Master (old JLPT 1) & the Advanced Dictionary of Japanese Grammar both have とばかりに, と言わんばかりにas separate (if related) entries so I'm going to try and clear these up and separate them. | |
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